bob anders, the senior fellow in the group. gray hair, he looked like a diplomat. he was a wonderful man. and we have never heard him talk since it happened. since somebody said, bob, tell us a little bit about going to the airport, what you're the directer, what did you do? what did tony do. what did they tell you to do. do you remember what he said? no. [laughter] >> bob anders said -- it was fun. and mind you, his life is on the line here. truly. he said it was kind of fun. this hollywood thing was kind of fun. and tony knew they would choose the hollywood cover, they didn't want to be nutritionist, they didn't want to be oil technicians, and they didn't want to be schoolteachers in a country where the schools and the american schools have been shut down for six months. but hollywood, who doesn't want to pretended and who's not able to pretended to be hollywood? bob anders said, we had been confined for three months, and my hair was really long. this is 1979. they got a blow-dryer and blew it back, and he said you should are -- i looked great. [laughter] i got -